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The Mary Marantz Show

Mar 8, 2022

“How can I build and grow a business that actually gives me not just income but freedom and flexibility?” “Is it possible for me to start a business with little to no money?”

If you have ever thought about turning your ideas, skills, and passions into an income stream, then today’s episode is a must listen!

Today, Mary is joined by the dynamic husband and wife entrepreneur duo, Shay and Graham Cochrane. While uniquely known for their own businesses (Shay is the founder of Social Squares and Graham the founder of The Recording Revolution plus multiple online academies), the two share the same motto that the key to success is to serve others. 

On today’s episode, Mary, Shay, and Graham dive into Graham’s new book “How to Get Paid for What You Know” and tackle all things related to achieving for your worth, building a business, and what success looks like (some of which will surprise you!).


  • What it means to have a business based around giving 

  • The difference between limiting beliefs and strategic limits for success 

  • The importance of giving value before you get value

  • How to differentiate between the sustainable long game or the path to short-lived success

If you are ready to create better stability and find more fulfillment in your work and life, make sure to tune in to today’s powerful episode!

Grab a copy of “How to Get Paid for What You Know” here!

Try out Social Squares for only $1 through this special promo here!



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  • If you love this episode, we bet you would also love Mary’s first book Dirt, all about growing up in a trailer in West Virginia, before going on to Yale for law school. It is a story of redemption and how we make peace with our past. You can find that at Amazon, Barnes and Noble, Target online or anywhere, books are sold.

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