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The Mary Marantz Show

Jan 25, 2022

Loss, waiting, jealousy, hurt. In a world riddled by these things, and reeling from a global pandemic, are you wondering how life can actually be good? If you are struggling with the hard things in life and longing for better days ahead, then this episode is for you!

Today, Mary is joined by eight-time author and sought-after Bible teacher, Lisa Whittle, as the dynamic duo dive into Lisa’s latest book, “The Hard Good: Showing Up for God to Work in You When You Want to Shut Down. In 2017, Lisa began her journey of ‘the hard good’ after the loss of her beloved father. Now, some five years later, she is combining the lessons learned with counsel from Scripture to share a poignant and practical roadmap that will help readers find spiritual growth and discover their unique role in God’s perfect plan.

On today’s episode Mary and Lisa tackle:

  • How to find freedom from comparison and envy
  • The important difference between purpose and usability 
  • Tips for showing up when you so desperately want to shut down
  • How to allow God to work in you during setbacks for bigger and better comebacks
  • Ways to shift the narrative from “what if” to “what is”

If you are ready to walk away equipped and motivated to weather whatever storm you face and come out on the other side stronger and more like the person God is shaping you to be, you will NOT want to miss today’s powerful episode!

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  • If you love this episode, we bet you would also love Mary’s first book Dirt, all about growing up in a trailer in West Virginia, before going on to Yale for law school. It is a story of redemption and how we make peace with our past. You can find that at Amazon, Barnes and Noble, Target online or anywhere, books are sold.
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