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The Mary Marantz Show

Apr 5, 2022

What happens when everything you've been clinging to falls apart? How do you determine what to keep, what to let go, and what should transform you along the way? If you’ve ever wrestled with these questions, then today’s episode is for you!

Today, Mary is joined by best-selling author - Shauna Niequist - as the two dive into Shauna’s new book, “Guess I Haven’t Learned That Yet: Discover New Ways of Living When The Old Ways Stop Working.” In “Guess I Haven’t Learned That Yet”, Shauna contemplates what remains after a season of upheaval and invites readers to find the bravery and resilience to begin again.

On today’s episode, Mary and Shauna tackle all things starting over and finding your true self. Specifically:

  • How to reframe your mind from functions of failure to functions of beginning

  • The importance of taking on a beginners posture opposed to continuing in an expert identify 

  • Ways to deepen trust in God’s goodness, even as the future looks more and more uncertain

  • How to leave behind what no longer serves you and begin again


If you are ready to discover that life is more about questions than answers, more about forgiveness than force, more about tenderness than trying hard then you will not want to miss today’s powerful episode.

Grab a copy of “Guess I Haven’t Learned That Yet” here!



  • You can find show notes for this episode at 

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    • Find Mary on Instagram @marymarantz 

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  • If you love this episode, we bet you would also love Mary’s first book Dirt, all about growing up in a trailer in West Virginia, before going on to Yale for law school. It is a story of redemption and how we make peace with our past. You can find that at Amazon, Barnes and Noble, Target online or anywhere, books are sold.

  • Don't forget to pre-order Slow Growth Equals Strong Roots while you're there, too! 

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