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The Mary Marantz Show

May 10, 2022

From friendships to Facebook to far-off countries, what do we do when our lives seem mired in conflict? How do we find connection when our differences are constantly on display? If you are tired of the anxiety, frustration, and fear that pervade your connections with other people, both online and in real life then today’s episode is for you!

Today, Mary is joined by co-hosts of the wildly popular “Pantsuit Politics” podcast - Sarah Steward Holland and Beth Silvers. Also, authors of the brand new book, “Now What? How to Move Forward When We’re Divided (About Basically Everything),” Sarah and Beth prioritize curiosity over the conflict that often drives political conversations.

On today’s episode, Mary, Sarah, and Beth dive into the transformative power of hard conversation as they tackle:

  • How to engage your family with a spirit of curiosity instead of judgment

  • Ways to explore shared values within your community

  • The importance of understanding your work as a citizen in a diverse country

  • Why you should hold lightly those things that are beyond your control around the world

  • How generational experiences and perception of events shape our worldviews 


If you long to be a peacemaker and a positive influence in your spheres, then today’s episode is your door to a future that is characterized by hope, love, and connection despite our differences!

Grab a copy of “Now What” here!




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  • If you love this episode, we bet you would also love Mary’s first book Dirt, all about growing up in a trailer in West Virginia, before going on to Yale for law school. It is a story of redemption and how we make peace with our past. You can find that at Amazon, Barnes and Noble, Target online or anywhere, books are sold.

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